Curse

Fhlamin Scythe · Oct 28, 2007, 07:53 PM // 19:53

Woopdeedoo, i made a build im really proud of. I made it because i was frustrated that i couldnt get in any party in DoA.

I bring to you... THE CHANTER PARAGON:

basically, i use 2 sets of armor, one for fighting and one for this build. it may be a bit expensive but im sure you can manage. So, what you gotta do is apply radiant insignias to all your armor parts, +1 rune command, +1 rune leadership, others must be attunement.
the Skills:

In order as i use them

1."Incoming!"
2."There's nothing to fear!"
3."Anthem of flame"
4."Glowing signet"(for energy management)
5."Never Surrender"(can be replaced with"Lightbringer's Gaze"(for margos in doa))
6."Vocal was sogolon" ( a rt skill, made especialy for paragons(noone seems to use it))
7."Sunspear rebirth signet"
8."Stand your ground!"

Ok so, if youre gonna use it in DoA you better keep away from those necromancers, they have skills that cant completely make this build useless.
it goes like this: cast Vocal was sogolon. stick to the back of the team(but still in earshot) and shout "Incoming!" ( should take off the pressure of first spikes). when that runs out, use there's nothing to fear. now you can use anthem of flame for +1 energy and then use glowing signet on the burning foe. keep hitting them with LB's gaze freely.

if used correctly, this build acts like a life boat. when im in a party with my monk heroes and a bunch of imbread-#@$#tards who usually rush in, i can take almost half the pressure of the monks, thus leaving them enough energy to heal. also, bring a MM for non doa areas with corpses. makes a hell of a team.

I hope this build will highten the use of paragons a bit, and i know my hopes are high, but maybe do you think its worth to go in the public(pvx)? thanks in advance and dont flame me :P , yours truly:
Angel Snowflake Xx

p.s.: use with max lb and SS for maximum performance, gl and hf

Racthoh · Oct 28, 2007, 08:34 PM // 20:34

Anthem of Flame requires an attack skill to trigger. You have no attack skill on that bar.

zwei2stein · Oct 28, 2007, 09:02 PM // 21:02

paragons have hard res, you know. one of better ones.

why would paragon want radiant insignia/runes is beyond me.

why would i as para run this when i can do the same /better/ with iconic angelic bonder or SY! spammer which actually benefits party more and outputs some damage ... because you can do massive defence while outputing damage.

Tarzanboy · Oct 28, 2007, 11:00 PM // 23:00

This build is pretty close to this build on PvXWiki.

I'd agree with zwei2stein's analysis.

Cheers,
TB

Omniclasm · Oct 29, 2007, 12:14 AM // 00:14

Would have been good a year ago....

but gets the /fail now.

SleepyLuxon · Oct 29, 2007, 11:06 AM // 11:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omniclasm

Would have been good a year ago....

but gets the /fail now.

I have to agree with that.

To OP:
Also your hopes to expand Paragon usage with this build is in good heart but the build is pretty old school maybe pre-nerf incoming it might have seen play.

yesitsrob · Oct 29, 2007, 12:53 PM // 12:53

If you showed me this to get into my DoA party, you wouldn't get in. It's a really poor build, numerous flaws. Bad Elite, no attack skills, no IAS...

Ninian_Grace · Oct 29, 2007, 01:28 PM // 13:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by yesitsrob

If you showed me this to get into my DoA party, you wouldn't get in. It's a really poor build, numerous flaws. Bad Elite, no attack skills, no IAS...

sums it up pretty much...

1: you have to attack skill to trigger anthem.
and 2: SY! > incoming.

and I still run the good old SY, spear of fury, TNTF, focused anger. anthem of flame, they're on fire!, Go for the eyes! and aggresive refrain. went through slaver's with that build...with heroes and hench. =/

MercenaryK · Oct 30, 2007, 12:36 AM // 00:36

Anthem of Flame triggers from attack skils
Party members have attack skills
Look for a monster the warrior targets, wait for there to be fire
Now you used Glowing Signet properly

All the criticism and no one even sees that...

FAIL!

Whiskeyjack · Oct 30, 2007, 12:47 AM // 00:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by MercenaryK

Anthem of Flame triggers from attack skils
Party members have attack skills
Look for a monster the warrior targets, wait for there to be fire
Now you used Glowing Signet properly

All the criticism and no one even sees that...

FAIL!

Oh we saw it, however the bar is still really bad.

yesitsrob · Oct 30, 2007, 04:41 AM // 04:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by MercenaryK

Anthem of Flame triggers from attack skils
Party members have attack skills
Look for a monster the warrior targets, wait for there to be fire
Now you used Glowing Signet properly

All the criticism and no one even sees that...

FAIL!

and when you do this (which by the way, we knew), the build still sucks! Wow!

Fhlamin Scythe · Oct 30, 2007, 04:39 PM // 16:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racthoh

Anthem of Flame requires an attack skill to trigger. You have no attack skill on that bar.

but others in my party have

Quote:

Originally Posted by zwei2stein

why would paragon want radiant insignia/runes is beyond me.

so you have more enrgy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninian_Grace

sums it up pretty much...

1: you have to attack skill to trigger anthem.
and 2: SY! > incoming.

and I still run the good old SY, spear of fury, TNTF, focused anger. anthem of flame, they're on fire!, Go for the eyes! and aggresive refrain. went through slaver's with that build...with heroes and hench. =/

well i cant run Save Yourselves if im /rt

Hmmm im quite surprised you guys have such critisism for this build.
I countered all your posts. please debate on so i know what to change
plus, that build you have(ninian_grace) will not win me a spot in DoA.

MercenaryKnight · Oct 30, 2007, 07:30 PM // 19:30

4 posts in a row to quote different stuff each time.... Answer in 1 post in the future as they don't like spam.

The thing is your build doesn't do a great job in general pve. Other builds can do better stuff so interesting idea, just not good enough for us.

street peddler · Oct 30, 2007, 07:31 PM // 19:31

incoming is just very bad now.

MercenaryK · Oct 30, 2007, 09:06 PM // 21:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by yesitsrob

and when you do this (which by the way, we knew), the build still sucks! Wow!

You better state it then, saves me the time of wondering if people are stupid. And saves time from arguementing about it later. Two posts to dedicate something you knew but fail to mention? Sure it could be common sense but if you're going to put opinion's about the build you need to take all things in to consideration.

Omniclasm · Oct 30, 2007, 09:39 PM // 21:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by MercenaryK

You better state it then, saves me the time of wondering if people are stupid. And saves time from arguementing about it later. Two posts to dedicate something you knew but fail to mention? Sure it could be common sense but if you're going to put opinion's about the build you need to take all things in to consideration.

So....you thought that people said this build sucked because of AoF? lol

Omniclasm · Oct 30, 2007, 09:43 PM // 21:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fhlamin Scythe

but others in my party have

so you have more enrgy

well i cant run Save Yourselves if im /rt

Hmmm im quite surprised you guys have such critisism for this build.
I countered all your posts. please debate on so i know what to change
plus, that build you have(ninian_grace) will not win me a spot in DoA.

Paragon not using a spear, pretty much always fails. Not to mention a severely heavily wtf nerfed Incoming.

No elite
No spear
No Save Yourselves
Couple questionable skills...Glowing Signet, Never Surrender
Vocal Was Sogolon does more harm than good.

Not trying to flame, just trying to critique, and I think it is great that you wanted Paragons to see more play, but this just doesn't out-do the current popular build most Paragons run. Paragons do not need better builds to get them accepted into PuGs, they need better PuGs. The PuGs fail, not the Paragon builds.

Ninian_Grace · Oct 31, 2007, 03:42 AM // 03:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fhlamin Scythe

but others in my party have

so you have more enrgy

well i cant run Save Yourselves if im /rt

Hmmm im quite surprised you guys have such critisism for this build.
I countered all your posts. please debate on so i know what to change
plus, that build you have(ninian_grace) will not win me a spot in DoA.

Maybe not for you in DoA...but it did for me + 3 heros + 4 henchies in HM Slaver's. its just because alot does not know how to play it.

and maybe a skill or two was changed...

MercenaryK · Oct 31, 2007, 03:47 PM // 15:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omniclasm

So....you thought that people said this build sucked because of AoF? lol

No. Actually I think people really think this build sucks because he has Sunspear Rebirth Signet. I mean seriously, WHY REZ AT ALL?! It's the monk's job.

Etta · Oct 31, 2007, 03:51 PM // 15:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by MercenaryK

I mean seriously, WHY REZ AT ALL?! It's the monk's job.

lol. You're kidding, right?